I bought 1.25 yards of 60" wide, thinking that a 1:2 ratio for gathering into the waist would be enough, but it really should be a 1:3 ratio, otherwise you end up with a fabric tube, not a nice flaring skirt.
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Bring on the rufflage, in this case a 13" deep ruffle of cotton muslin, same unbleached color as the matelesse, again 1:3 ratio to get plenty of gathering. Now it is a working, but I kindof hate it.
I mean...it kindof sucks!
There is at least one example of a quilted petticoat with a ruffle here:
I like that lovely red color, and perhaps I'd like my Petticoat of Suck more if I dyed it.
Or maybe it's just one to chock up to experience? What do you think?
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I think it still looks lovely. You could try and add in another pannel if you have the money and the time? Or you could try and re ruffle it by adding more bulk on the sides? Its helped me a little before.
ReplyDeleteIf you can match the color of the other pieces in your photo, I say dye it red. Go blue if you want a patriotic look.
ReplyDeleteHm. Maybe this becomes a really awesome underpetticoat and you chalk it up as a good learning experience?
ReplyDeleteStripe the muslin ruffle. Seriously. Grab some 1.5"-2" ribbon (red, or black for some fun contrast!) or some fabric paint and and add some stripes to the thing.
ReplyDeleteIt's a pleat problem I think : no pleats for the front part, only start at the side. Let 10 centimeters pleat-free on the front and I think it will totally change the shape of the skirt...
ReplyDeleteTotally agreeing with Fanny.
Delete! Thank you so much! That makes so much more sense. I'm going to go give it a try right now. I assume the back is pleated all the way across, though, yes? Just the front is left flat?
DeleteI am with Taylor, a nice under petticoat.
ReplyDeleteI think it looks pretty, and not meh at all!
ReplyDeleteFor a Tim Gunn "suck", it didn't end up too bad!
ReplyDeleteI think it looks very nice. The change between the top fabric and ruffle looks somewhat drastic in the picture. Maybe if you add something to sort of graduate the change somehow, maybe a pleated strip of the muslin? It just needs... something. Still lovely, though!
ReplyDeleteI actually kinda hate it too. I think you need a heavier fabric for the ruffles... or maybe a horizontal line of rushing? IDK, it's not quite working in terms of textures & weights. The proportions are OK though.
ReplyDeleteBut maybe what's bothering me is that your pleats are too much in the CF... maybe if you spaced the deeper pleats more to the sides it would hang better?
I re-pleated the top and it does look SO much better. I'm going to finish the thing and see how I feel about it then...but this might end in scissors, lol.
DeleteJust my opinion (but you did ask!) - either an underpetticoat or deconstructed and the matelesse repurposed into something else; I just can't envision any way to join two such different fabrics in a pleasing manner.
ReplyDeletethat may eventually be its fate!
DeleteI just had a thought - what if the ruffles was attached under a finished edge of the matelesse, hiding the gathered header - it might give a more flattering look.
ReplyDeleteWell that wasn't really what I had in mind when I mentioned matelasse, rofl. I'm pretty impressed that you were able to dig up an example with a ruffle at the bottom but that definitely wasn't what I envisioned! Was there just not any fabric left to go back and get? Those people who mentioned not pleating it in the CF are so very right. I bought pre-quilted material for a 'puffer' under-petticoat and learned the hard way that thick fabric just looks nasty all bunched up at that spot.
ReplyDeleteIt's not what I had in mind either! I was kindof "meh" about all the options at the store, but decided to get some and try it out anyway. It was intended to be just as a normal quilted petticoat would be, with the binding at the bottom, not a ruffle. This is either destined to be a support/structural petticoat, or deconstructed and used for something else, although I admit it's kindof growing on me in a weird way.
DeleteThe pleating - YES, you guys were SO right about that, and it looks much better re-pleated straight in front.
I use a matelasse as an under petticoat. It gives good heft and covers any boning from the panniers. I'd say use it for that :)
ReplyDeleteI think that is what this one is destined to become. And yes about the pleats
DeleteOh and ps, remove the pleats from the front so it lays flat, like any other 18th c. petti. I swear, works great under a gown!
ReplyDeleteI vote for removing the center pleats, and possibly for striping the ruffle. Then it's look amazing!
ReplyDelete~Lylassandra
Hrm. That is a quandary. I'm planning on cutting up a well used Williamsburg matelesse coverlet for an underskirt petticoat for added warmth in the winter months. I had not considered using it as an outer petticoat until I saw your pictures so thank you!
ReplyDeleteCould you possibly quilt a diamond pattern ( cream thread on cream fabric - or white on white- sorry, I can't tell from your pics) and slightly gather and use this as your ruffle to attach to the skirt?I think the diamond pattern with the floral would be a nice contrast and a quilted might give you the fabric body to compliment the body in the matelesse.
That could help it, although at this point I think I'll just abandon it and cannibalize it at a future date...
DeleteUnfortunately, I have to agree that the two fabrics just don't complement each other in their weights. I think it would have the heft to be a great under-petticoat though!
ReplyDeleteDying it sounds like a good idea to me. Perhaps covering the transition from the matelesse to the ruffle might improve it. The sample picture does have a wide flatish band at the top of the ruffle. Like the stripe idea for the bottom as well, perhaps two different shades of the same color particularly if you dye the whole. It definitely has potential.
ReplyDeleteOr...you could offer it on Etsy so some one (like myself) who adores it could fund your future petticoating adventures ?
ReplyDeleteI'm glad you re-pleated the front as I think that's the biggest problem. Second though, I usually point my pleats to the back/outside, meaning the "knife" is on the other side from what it is in these pictures. So a large inverted box pleat in the center (nice and flat) and then knife pleats out from there facing the back. Maybe that's not how they did things? Was there are reason for your pleating?
ReplyDeleteThat's how I pleat too Carly. It seems to be the most common, though not the only method used in 18th c. petticoats.
DeleteI do the same thing, Carly--it avoid tummy poofing, because who wants that? Plus it focuses the pleating/fullness closer to the hips. I also always do the same front and back, so that I can wear either side as the front...because I inevitably spill something on myself. Which I'm not sure is correct to the period, but I know I would have been an 18th century or 21st century klutz, so...it works :)
DeleteAh-hah! That's what all those pins were about! I think re-pleating it (as others have suggested) will help. I also think that the bottom ruffle is too full - if you look at the extent example it is barely ruffled. Finally, make sure the hem is really, really, really straight. (I know such a headache). I bet that will help too. It's not nearly as bad as you think though - really quite cute.
ReplyDeleteHi Dreamstress - I agree about the ruffle at the bottom. I think I need to give this thing a good wash and let that ruffle settle down. I did finish the thing last night and I actually kind of like it, but it's not really my style. I don't feel good about it, y'know? I think I will put it on Etsy to sell.
DeleteI was going to suggest Etsy...then you get paid for your precious seamstress experience points! For your next try, why not cruise around the internet and see if you can find a white quilt to cut up? I know that they were pumping them out from China a few years ago for a song...hand quilted, too!
ReplyDeleteOh how fun! I really like your use of Matelesse fabric!!! I have seen it at my fabric store and thought, "that is quite lovely"...now I have a "excuse" to purchase some!
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